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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:54 pm

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The Sly Collection is getting some good reviews.

Does that count? It's just a bunch of old games packaged together.



If Microsoft made Halo 1 and 2 HD versions and put it on one retail disc, you would be saying something else. Hypocrite.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:58 pm

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BlackStigma wrote:
Invincible wrote:
The Sly Collection is getting some good reviews.

Does that count? It's just a bunch of old games packaged together.

If "Perfect Dark" and "Doom 2" count, so does "The Sly Collection".

If Microsoft made Halo 1 and 2 HD versions and put it on one retail disc, you would be saying something else. Hypocrite.

No I wouldn't. If the graphics get upgraded to HD, and adds achievements then it should count aswell.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:28 pm

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If Microsoft made Halo 1 and 2 HD versions and put it on one retail disc, you would be saying something else. Hypocrite.
You can't call him a hypocrite if he hasn't even made a statement like that ever. That's like if I called you a murderer because it's possible that you will murder someone in your lifetime.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:54 pm

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BlackStigma wrote:
Invincible wrote:
The Sly Collection is getting some good reviews.

Does that count? It's just a bunch of old games packaged together.



If Microsoft made Halo 1 and 2 HD versions and put it on one retail disc, you would be saying something else. Hypocrite.

No, I wouldn't actually.

EDIT: If they were remakes with added content then I would, but if it's like the Sly collection where all they've added are trophies and HD support then I wouldn't.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:47 am

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theassassins wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Invincible wrote:
The Sly Collection is getting some good reviews.

Does that count? It's just a bunch of old games packaged together.



If Microsoft made Halo 1 and 2 HD versions and put it on one retail disc, you would be saying something else. Hypocrite.

No, I wouldn't actually.

EDIT: If they were remakes with added content then I would, but if it's like the Sly collection where all they've added are trophies and HD support then I wouldn't.

im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.

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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:17 am

It should count. Its officially a PS3 game.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:12 pm

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im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.
Well you did say that games like Paperboy and Bully: Scholarship Edition count for the 360, so all of the HD Collections should count for PS3. The Sly Collection has improved visuals, trophies, 3D support, Move support, and a bunch of mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection (meaning they weren't in any of the PS2 games).

Oh, and The Sly Collection is three games put on one Blu-Ray disc. That, in and of itself, justifies it being on the list since that's technically a change. And if you disagree, then there's all that other stuff I mentioned.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:21 pm

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im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.
Well you did say that games like Paperboy and Bully: Scholarship Edition count for the 360, so all of the HD Collections should count for PS3. The Sly Collection has improved visuals, trophies, 3D support, Move support, and a bunch of mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection (meaning they weren't in any of the PS2 games).

Oh, and The Sly Collection is three games put on one Blu-Ray disc. That, in and of itself, justifies it being on the list since that's technically a change. And if you disagree, then there's all that other stuff I mentioned.

The Sly collection is just a bunch of PS2 games running at a higher resolution. It doesn't count. Paperboy idk about but when Bully came out the 360 had already released.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:23 pm

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TRF wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.
Well you did say that games like Paperboy and Bully: Scholarship Edition count for the 360, so all of the HD Collections should count for PS3. The Sly Collection has improved visuals, trophies, 3D support, Move support, and a bunch of mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection (meaning they weren't in any of the PS2 games).

Oh, and The Sly Collection is three games put on one Blu-Ray disc. That, in and of itself, justifies it being on the list since that's technically a change. And if you disagree, then there's all that other stuff I mentioned.

The Sly collection is just a bunch of PS2 games running at a higher resolution. It doesn't count. Paperboy idk about but when Bully came out the 360 had already released.

"The Sly Collection" does count, according to Metacritic.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:24 pm

BlackStigma wrote:
TRF wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.
Well you did say that games like Paperboy and Bully: Scholarship Edition count for the 360, so all of the HD Collections should count for PS3. The Sly Collection has improved visuals, trophies, 3D support, Move support, and a bunch of mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection (meaning they weren't in any of the PS2 games).

Oh, and The Sly Collection is three games put on one Blu-Ray disc. That, in and of itself, justifies it being on the list since that's technically a change. And if you disagree, then there's all that other stuff I mentioned.

The Sly collection is just a bunch of PS2 games running at a higher resolution. It doesn't count. Paperboy idk about but when Bully came out the 360 had already released.
Did you not read my post? It's more than that. It has 3D support, Move support, and mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection. MLD even stated that games like Paperboy count, and his only reason for counting Paperboy was that it had Achievements. The Sly Collection is more than just a higher resolution and trophy support.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:27 pm

TRF wrote:
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TRF wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
im undecided. on one hand its nothing new. on the other, its been reviewed by reviewers.
Well you did say that games like Paperboy and Bully: Scholarship Edition count for the 360, so all of the HD Collections should count for PS3. The Sly Collection has improved visuals, trophies, 3D support, Move support, and a bunch of mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection (meaning they weren't in any of the PS2 games).

Oh, and The Sly Collection is three games put on one Blu-Ray disc. That, in and of itself, justifies it being on the list since that's technically a change. And if you disagree, then there's all that other stuff I mentioned.

The Sly collection is just a bunch of PS2 games running at a higher resolution. It doesn't count. Paperboy idk about but when Bully came out the 360 had already released.
Did you not read my post? It's more than that. It has 3D support, Move support, and mini-games that are exclusive to the Collection. MLD even stated that games like Paperboy count, and his only reason for counting Paperboy was that it had Achievements. The Sly Collection is more than just a higher resolution and trophy support.

Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:30 pm

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Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:32 pm

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Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:33 pm

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BlackStigma wrote:
Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?

DLCs are not full retail games. "The Sly Collection" is though.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:34 pm

What Mecha said. The fact that it has those mini-games alone should make it count, but when you consider EVERYTHING that's been added to this game, it's clear that it should count.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:36 pm

Mecha wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
TRF wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?

DLCs are not full retail games. "The Sly Collection" is though.

Arcade games are not full retail games, but they count.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:38 pm

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BlackStigma wrote:
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Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?

DLCs are not full retail games. "The Sly Collection" is though.

Arcade games are not full retail games, but they count.
Arcade games are full games. DLC are not full games. Forget the "retail" part. Arcade games can be played on their own. In order to play DLC, you need the original game (with a few exceptions, like Episodes from Liberty City).
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:39 pm

DLCs are just add-ons. Not full games.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:40 pm

TRF wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
TRF wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?

DLCs are not full retail games. "The Sly Collection" is though.

Arcade games are not full retail games, but they count.
Arcade games are full games. DLC are not full games. Forget the "retail" part. Arcade games can be played on their own. In order to play DLC, you need the original game (with a few exceptions, like Episodes from Liberty City).

But I thought "It's on Metacritic, so it counts". Sound familiar? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:44 pm

BlackStigma wrote:
TRF wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
TRF wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Well Paperboy doesn't then, neither does the Collection. It has Move support? Wow it can be played using an accessory!
You're just targeting little things that the game does. You need to look at the bigger picture. I will repeat myself a third time: HD resolution, trophy support, 3D support, Move support, and a collection of new mini-games that were not on the PS2 versions. Belittle Move all you want, adding motion controls is a big thing. Plus, like Mecha said, the game is on Metacritic.

Yeah and DLC is on Metacritic, you wanna count that too?

DLCs are not full retail games. "The Sly Collection" is though.

Arcade games are not full retail games, but they count.
Arcade games are full games. DLC are not full games. Forget the "retail" part. Arcade games can be played on their own. In order to play DLC, you need the original game (with a few exceptions, like Episodes from Liberty City).

But I thought "It's on Metacritic, so it counts". Sound familiar? Laughing
Think about it. How fucking retarded would it sound saying, "Our games on our console get higher-rated DLC than your games on your console." We're comparing full games, not DLC. The Sly Collection is a full game.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:47 pm

DLCs may count according to Metacritic, but MLD is only counting full games.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:53 pm

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But I thought "It's on Metacritic, so it counts". Sound familiar? Laughing
Think about it. How fucking retarded would it sound saying, "Our games on our console get higher-rated DLC than your games on your console." We're comparing full games, not DLC. The Sly Collection is a full game.

It's downright fucking stupid, same with counting the Sly Collection because they are PS2 games with a few minigames that no one will give two shits about because you need Move which no one cares for. Yeah Doom 2 and Paperboy don't count then, I haven't played either of them or the originals so I didn't know the difference between them. PDZ does cause it's an actual remake with online multiplayer added. Doom 2, Paperboy, and The Sly Collection don't count.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:58 pm

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But I thought "It's on Metacritic, so it counts". Sound familiar? Laughing
Think about it. How fucking retarded would it sound saying, "Our games on our console get higher-rated DLC than your games on your console." We're comparing full games, not DLC. The Sly Collection is a full game.

It's downright fucking stupid, same with counting the Sly Collection because they are PS2 games with a few minigames that no one will give two shits about because you need Move which no one cares for. Yeah Doom 2 and Paperboy don't count then, I haven't played either of them or the originals so I didn't know the difference between them. PDZ does cause it's an actual remake with online multiplayer added. Doom 2, Paperboy, and The Sly Collection don't count.
Fine, fair enough, there's no way I'm going to convince you to think otherwise. Oh, and you don't NEED Move for the mini-games as far as I know.

But MLD should still count it because he DOES count Paperboy and Doom II.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:02 pm

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Fine, fair enough, there's no way I'm going to convince you to think otherwise. Oh, and you don't NEED Move for the mini-games as far as I know.

But MLD should still count it because he DOES count Paperboy and Doom II.

I think he only counted Paperboy because he didn't want to go through a list of hundreds of games and cross out what is a port or not because some of these games that are apparently SNES games or whatever I've never heard of.

MLD, The Sly Collection doesn't count, but neither does Doom 2, you should remove that one.
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PostSubject: Re: 360 VS PS3 (A, AA, AAA) 2010 FINALIZED   Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:09 pm

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Fine, fair enough, there's no way I'm going to convince you to think otherwise. Oh, and you don't NEED Move for the mini-games as far as I know.

But MLD should still count it because he DOES count Paperboy and Doom II.

I think he only counted Paperboy because he didn't want to go through a list of hundreds of games and cross out what is a port or not because some of these games that are apparently SNES games or whatever I've never heard of.

MLD, The Sly Collection doesn't count, but neither does Doom 2, you should remove that one.

Don't forget about "Perfect Dark" now.
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