|
| | My problems with Mass Effect | |
| |
| Author | Message |
|---|
Guest Guest
 | Subject: My problems with Mass Effect Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:39 pm | |
| There are some of you here who are fully aware that Mass Effect is not a game I hold in high regard, I don't hate it, but it is not for me, let me explain.
The two main RPG series that I like a lot better are KOTOR and BioShock. Why? I like the universes, they are unique to themselves and are well established. Mass Effect is not when you get to the unique part, pretty much all the plot and some other things are direct imitations of the other. It feels more like I am playing an imitation of a familiar series rather then a unique one.
Let's get on with the examples.
A galaxy that has an ancient advanced race that left behind advanced technology (Clearly a copy of the Jjaro from Marathon, the Forerunners from Halo, and the Rakata from Star Wars).
There is a government and or species based council of representatives (Copy of the Galactic Senate of the Republic and in some cases the Jedi Council from Star Wars)
There is something called a Specter, which the council can appoint and have this Specter go on missions for it (A copy of what a Jedi is)
Biotics (Force copy)
A extra-galactic threat (Flood from Halo, Yuzhan Vong from Star Wars)
Energy Shields (Halo, Half life, Star Wars, ect.)
There are many more things, but you get the idea. Now here are things I flat out don't like.
It copies Star Wars WAY too much.
The gameplay is somewhere around average in shooting, but using biotics is just tedious on an xbox controller, constantly having to pause the game to remap or select a new power.
The game is filled with artificial difficulty, meaning that bosses are not "hard" they are just long (all I did for one guy was take cover and unload a million assault rifle rounds into him and won, no sweat), another thing that I get is that when you did the game is over, yet if a teammate dies then they are simply knocked out, also I have never had a teammate heal me when they are perfectly capable of doing so.
This is not all of it, I post more if I remember, and to all you Mass Effect fanboys who are upset over this, if any, I will say this once, but will probably be flamed anyway.
This is only my opinion, flaming me won't change it
This is wasn't the hit game to me that it was to everyone else, It was not terrible, but I don't see myself liking it anymore then I do now.
Last edited by Ezekiel 703 on Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:49 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|  | | Stoney Lieutenant, Junior Grade


Posts: 2810 Join date: 2009-11-03 Age: 23 Location: In the gutter
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:04 pm | |
| I think DDD will agree with your opinion.I personally loved it. One of the best games (and sequel) I've played in a long time. But hey its your opinion, I aint going to flame ya.  |
|  | | DarkSwarm85 Master Chief Petty Officer


Posts: 992 Join date: 2010-02-02 Age: 26 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:27 pm | |
| I like Mass Effect 2 more then Mass Effect 1.
The only problems I had with ME1 were the glitches, frame rate, and boring side missions. The main quest is good though.
ME2. None of those issues existed for me = good sequel. |
|  | | Pein Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 1984 Join date: 2010-01-12 Age: 17 Location: Amagakure
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:05 am | |
|  FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU hehe joking..i agree it copies star wars a lot..but if you get over with those problems..it might be a spectacular game.. |
|  | | Lt Xplosi Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 2327 Join date: 2009-09-12 Age: 16 Location: Sweden
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:42 am | |
| i havent played them  |
|  | | ghost23 Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 3426 Join date: 2009-12-16 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:15 am | |
| I wouldn't say it copies Star Wars, it takes inspiration from Star Wars. Star Wars is basis for any Sci-Fi material and since the Star Wars universe is so large, its fairly difficult to make a sci-fi game without having a lot of star wars elements in it. _________________ Live by the Creed |
|  | | Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 5064 Join date: 2009-09-15 Location: Sanghelios
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:39 am | |
| First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
|  | | Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:05 am | |
| | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
|  | | Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 5064 Join date: 2009-09-15 Location: Sanghelios
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:30 pm | |
| | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
I cant remember who used those things first,but a guy on youtube did say them when we were debating on Halo vs Metroid
First of all,those plot things you listed,they are common sci fi plot factors.Most sci-fi use them,so you cant really say Mass Effect is copying when Mass Effect is just using common sci fi plot elements
You mean the spectre thing?In all Bioware RPG's,your character joins some sort of elite group.
I do find Biotics more cooler.You actually see biotic powers,there not invisible like the force.And in ME2,you can do many cool things with Biotics.
But you dont seem to get it.It isnt about all those small plot things you listed,it is about how the story uses them
If you think the Mass Effect story is like Starwars or Halo or any other good sci fi,then you REALLY need to play Mass Effect again. |
|  | | Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:59 pm | |
| | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
I cant remember who used those things first,but a guy on youtube did say them when we were debating on Halo vs Metroid
First of all,those plot things you listed,they are common sci fi plot factors.Most sci-fi use them,so you cant really say Mass Effect is copying when Mass Effect is just using common sci fi plot elements
You mean the spectre thing?In all Bioware RPG's,your character joins some sort of elite group.
I do find Biotics more cooler.You actually see biotic powers,there not invisible like the force.And in ME2,you can do many cool things with Biotics.
But you dont seem to get it.It isnt about all those small plot things you listed,it is about how the story uses them
If you think the Mass Effect story is like Starwars or Halo or any other good sci fi,then you REALLY need to play Mass Effect again. |
Very well I respect your opinions.
However the story does feel like those franchises to me. The Mass Effect universe seems like it should be familiar to me strangely, this is becuase of those similarities. Sorry but to me the story does feel like those sci-fi epics to me.
I do get it, I proved that in a previous post that It is about what the plot points are and their importance.
Now I could be wrong, there may be some day where I actually like Mass Effect, but I don't see that happening anytime soon (I don't mind it, but am not crazy for it FYI).
Just a thought, there must be another reasons why you like Biotics more, there are force powers that are visible to eye, so I know that sight can't be the only reason. |
|  | | Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 5064 Join date: 2009-09-15 Location: Sanghelios
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:56 pm | |
| | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
I cant remember who used those things first,but a guy on youtube did say them when we were debating on Halo vs Metroid
First of all,those plot things you listed,they are common sci fi plot factors.Most sci-fi use them,so you cant really say Mass Effect is copying when Mass Effect is just using common sci fi plot elements
You mean the spectre thing?In all Bioware RPG's,your character joins some sort of elite group.
I do find Biotics more cooler.You actually see biotic powers,there not invisible like the force.And in ME2,you can do many cool things with Biotics.
But you dont seem to get it.It isnt about all those small plot things you listed,it is about how the story uses them
If you think the Mass Effect story is like Starwars or Halo or any other good sci fi,then you REALLY need to play Mass Effect again. |
Very well I respect your opinions.
However the story does feel like those franchises to me. The Mass Effect universe seems like it should be familiar to me strangely, this is becuase of those similarities. Sorry but to me the story does feel like those sci-fi epics to me.
I do get it, I proved that in a previous post that It is about what the plot points are and their importance.
Now I could be wrong, there may be some day where I actually like Mass Effect, but I don't see that happening anytime soon (I don't mind it, but am not crazy for it FYI).
Just a thought, there must be another reasons why you like Biotics more, there are force powers that are visible to eye, so I know that sight can't be the only reason. |
I honestly dont see how you can get Mass Effect story out of Star wars and Halo's.I honestly dont see the connection.They have TOTALLY different plots
Lol,youve olnly played ME1.I didnt like ME1 fo the most part when I first played it.But ME2 is totally awesome.You really got to try it,reviewers didnt give ME2 a higher score than KOTOR for nothing
Well,most of the force isnt visible.The only thing I find that really is cool about the force is force lightning.But that is mainly it. |
|  | | Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:16 pm | |
| | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
I cant remember who used those things first,but a guy on youtube did say them when we were debating on Halo vs Metroid
First of all,those plot things you listed,they are common sci fi plot factors.Most sci-fi use them,so you cant really say Mass Effect is copying when Mass Effect is just using common sci fi plot elements
You mean the spectre thing?In all Bioware RPG's,your character joins some sort of elite group.
I do find Biotics more cooler.You actually see biotic powers,there not invisible like the force.And in ME2,you can do many cool things with Biotics.
But you dont seem to get it.It isnt about all those small plot things you listed,it is about how the story uses them
If you think the Mass Effect story is like Starwars or Halo or any other good sci fi,then you REALLY need to play Mass Effect again. |
Very well I respect your opinions.
However the story does feel like those franchises to me. The Mass Effect universe seems like it should be familiar to me strangely, this is becuase of those similarities. Sorry but to me the story does feel like those sci-fi epics to me.
I do get it, I proved that in a previous post that It is about what the plot points are and their importance.
Now I could be wrong, there may be some day where I actually like Mass Effect, but I don't see that happening anytime soon (I don't mind it, but am not crazy for it FYI).
Just a thought, there must be another reasons why you like Biotics more, there are force powers that are visible to eye, so I know that sight can't be the only reason. |
I honestly dont see how you can get Mass Effect story out of Star wars and Halo's.I honestly dont see the connection.They have TOTALLY different plots
Lol,youve olnly played ME1.I didnt like ME1 fo the most part when I first played it.But ME2 is totally awesome.You really got to try it,reviewers didnt give ME2 a higher score than KOTOR for nothing
Well,most of the force isnt visible.The only thing I find that really is cool about the force is force lightning.But that is mainly it. |
The plot's are not totally different, star wars has hundreds of Arcs, they are very similar. |
|  | | Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 5064 Join date: 2009-09-15 Location: Sanghelios
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:22 pm | |
| | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | | HellJumper wrote: | First of all,many of those things you listed,starwars or marathon didnt have first anyways.
There have been many sci fi stories that include an ancient race that left a bunch of mysterious stuff behind.That has been there for a long time and you cant say ME copied starwars or halo,becuase Starwars and Halo werent the first to do it either.
So because there is a goverment that is made up of races means that ME copied other series?Last time I checked,the UN is aloty like that.But instead of races,it is countries.
Bioware always uses some sort of elite rank/warrior for there characters in there games.For example,Jedi would be for KOTOR,Gray Warden would be for Dragon Age Origins and Spectre would be for Mass Effect.That is how Bioware make there RPG's,so you cant critisize Mass Effect for that.
Yes,Biotics are INSPIRED by the force.except Biotics are much cooler,so i would consider that a pro,not a con
"extra galaxy threat" oh comon,that has been used for ages.And last time I checked,Mass Effects "extra galaxy threat" is more exciting and severe than KOTOR's.Nowadays,if a sci fi game doesnt have a big extra galatic threat,it is considered generic
Energy shields?that has been used for a long time too.
Mass Effect uses sci- fistory factors,starwars doesnt own those factors and nor does any other game.So Mass Effect sint copying at all
And using the word "copy" is incorrect,Inspiration is more like it.
Ill tell you this,the controls and Ai have been greatly improved in ME2.So I would play ME2 first and then judge if I was you
And Im not flaming you,I am correcting you.
It is your oppinion and I respect that,but I am allowed correcting info which I see is incorrect.It isnt against the rules |
I expected you here.
Fair enough, I do not doubt you but give an example about who did it first, and at least they were the early users of that story device, and had unique ways of bringing it about.
Yes, a reference to actually real things is fine, I was referring to media, not real world history. (Everything in fiction can be traced to a real world event pretty much)
I was not referring to gameplay classes, yet again it was the plot.
Your kidding yourself if you see biotics as cooler, you can do things better and do more things with the force.
Who said I was talking about KOTOR? The one in star wars was far more exciting then what Mass Effect has. By the way, I think you are confusing this with the ending of KOTOR 2 (that threat was not "extra galactic").
Yes Energy shields are used a lot, though last I checked the first game to use them was a star wars game "Dark Forces".
And what unique factors are those? It would have been more helpful for you to post what "sci-fistory" factors you referred too. |
I cant remember who used those things first,but a guy on youtube did say them when we were debating on Halo vs Metroid
First of all,those plot things you listed,they are common sci fi plot factors.Most sci-fi use them,so you cant really say Mass Effect is copying when Mass Effect is just using common sci fi plot elements
You mean the spectre thing?In all Bioware RPG's,your character joins some sort of elite group.
I do find Biotics more cooler.You actually see biotic powers,there not invisible like the force.And in ME2,you can do many cool things with Biotics.
But you dont seem to get it.It isnt about all those small plot things you listed,it is about how the story uses them
If you think the Mass Effect story is like Starwars or Halo or any other good sci fi,then you REALLY need to play Mass Effect again. |
Very well I respect your opinions.
However the story does feel like those franchises to me. The Mass Effect universe seems like it should be familiar to me strangely, this is becuase of those similarities. Sorry but to me the story does feel like those sci-fi epics to me.
I do get it, I proved that in a previous post that It is about what the plot points are and their importance.
Now I could be wrong, there may be some day where I actually like Mass Effect, but I don't see that happening anytime soon (I don't mind it, but am not crazy for it FYI).
Just a thought, there must be another reasons why you like Biotics more, there are force powers that are visible to eye, so I know that sight can't be the only reason. |
I honestly dont see how you can get Mass Effect story out of Star wars and Halo's.I honestly dont see the connection.They have TOTALLY different plots
Lol,youve olnly played ME1.I didnt like ME1 fo the most part when I first played it.But ME2 is totally awesome.You really got to try it,reviewers didnt give ME2 a higher score than KOTOR for nothing
Well,most of the force isnt visible.The only thing I find that really is cool about the force is force lightning.But that is mainly it. |
The plot's are not totally different, star wars has hundreds of Arcs, they are very similar. |
Which starwars game and movie had a plot anything close to Mass Effects?I certainly dont remember seeing anything like Mass Effect plot about the Reapers |
|  | | Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:49 pm | |
| KOTOR has a plot similar to ME's actually, becuase every bioware game has the same theme, A hero who gathers a party and goes on a quest to defeat a powerful evil.
Also the Yuzhan Vong are the most similar in some senses, I could probably find more with research of the vast star wars universe. |
|  | | Arbiteris Four Star General (Moderator)


Posts: 5064 Join date: 2009-09-15 Location: Sanghelios
 | Subject: Re: My problems with Mass Effect Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:56 pm | |
| | Ezekiel 703 wrote: | KOTOR has a plot similar to ME's actually, becuase every bioware game has the same theme, A hero who gathers a party and goes on a quest to defeat a powerful evil.
Also the Yuzhan Vong are the most similar in some senses, I could probably find more with research of the vast star wars universe. |
so I guess that mean Dragon age is a copy then,and every other RPG(yes,even JRPG).I disagree
So if "A hero who gathers a party and goes on a quest to defeat a powerful evil." is the plot summary of KOTOR,dont you think that is kinda incorrect?See what I mean? |
|  | | | | My problems with Mass Effect | |
|
Similar topics |  |
|
| | Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| |