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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:44 am

andes755 wrote:
isn't cross game chat avaliable on PSN+ now, so that should be a yes technically, since Live costs for online anyway, and isn't PSN+ an optional upgrade so you still have the free service?

i'm just stating notes i've picked up, since i'm not really a gamer, and didn't watch E3

Xbox Live Silver is also free, and doesn't cost any money, same for the normal PSN Service.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:20 pm

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isn't cross game chat avaliable on PSN+ now, so that should be a yes technically, since Live costs for online anyway, and isn't PSN+ an optional upgrade so you still have the free service?

i'm just stating notes i've picked up, since i'm not really a gamer, and didn't watch E3

Xbox Live Silver is also free, and doesn't cost any money, same for the normal PSN Service.

But Silver doesnt have nearly as much as PSN free does.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:07 pm

Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:56 am

Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz
You can't buy a PS3 with a 1TB HDD. Yes you can upgrade, i know that.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:01 am

Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz


pay to play? Yeah I guess you don't pay to play but to get everything the service has to offer, yes you have to pay.

Thing is, if you pay to play online for 360 you also get access loads of content & downloads. With ps3 even if you do pay you don't get as much and so if I don't state "Pay for online" then this would be horribly unbalanced.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:36 pm

Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz

BC is not on the latest version of the PS3, only on 1 or 2 models. And 250 is the max for PS3, you can upgrade past that but it does not have a 1TB sku
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:55 pm

The BC on PS3 is a pain in the ass, I'll admit. I really miss upscaling SOTC on my old 60GB.

It's unfair to say though that you must pay for PSN+ to get all that PSN offers. All it is is free stuff and discounts.
I guess I'm a PSN- subscriber, but I still get everything the service has to offer. I can buy those crappy, animated themes if I so wish.

Gold is a necessity to get all that Live has to offer. Facebook, MP and all that jazz
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:40 pm

Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz

PS3 doesn't have PS2 BC.

360 supports external hard drives, way bigger than 1TB. And you can upgrade that 250GB hard drive with any internal PC harddrive.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:46 pm

BlackStigma wrote:
Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz

PS3 doesn't have PS2 BC.

360 supports external hard drives, way bigger than 1TB. And you can upgrade that 250GB hard drive with any internal PC harddrive.

360 never had a proprietary, overpriced HDD, nope.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:20 pm

BlackStigma wrote:
Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz

PS3 doesn't have PS2 BC.

360 supports external hard drives, way bigger than 1TB. And you can upgrade that 250GB hard drive with any internal PC harddrive.

BC is BC.

No it doesn't, actually. The USB drive is max 16 GB. No you can't. The slim is a new proprietary HDD.


I count it as 1TB because you can switch them out without voiding warranty. Also, there is a 360GB version coming out in Japan.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:28 pm

Goosezorz wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Goosezorz wrote:
Pay to play online
360: YES
Ps3: NO
BC:
BOTH
Maximum HDD space:
250GB
1TB


Just some corrections Razz

PS3 doesn't have PS2 BC.

360 supports external hard drives, way bigger than 1TB. And you can upgrade that 250GB hard drive with any internal PC harddrive.

BC is BC.

No it doesn't, actually. The USB drive is max 16 GB. No you can't. The slim is a new proprietary HDD.


I count it as 1TB because you can switch them out without voiding warranty. Also, there is a 360GB version coming out in Japan.

But the 1TB isnt in the sku so it doesnt count. And we take BC from the most recent models, IE the slim versions. So the PS3 does not have BC
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:58 pm

Only thing I take issue with here is the no overheating. The new 360 DOES overheat. Alot. Hence why they tried to gloss this over by having the system automatically shut off if it does. Rather than actually fix the problem, they covered it with duct tape.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:11 pm

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Only thing I take issue with here is the no overheating. The new 360 DOES overheat. Alot. Hence why they tried to gloss this over by having the system automatically shut off if it does. Rather than actually fix the problem, they covered it with duct tape.

Maybe but it overheats less than PS3 slim

http://www.gofanboy.com/home/fanboy-features/3263-xbox-360-slim-beats-ps3-slim-in-heat-tests-multiple-times/
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:50 pm

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Only thing I take issue with here is the no overheating. The new 360 DOES overheat. Alot. Hence why they tried to gloss this over by having the system automatically shut off if it does. Rather than actually fix the problem, they covered it with duct tape.

There have been test showing that the X360 slim overheats even less than the PS3 slim. Makes sense though TBH, the new X360 uses a combined 45 nm chip while the older models used seperate 90 nm chips for both the GPU and CPU. This by itself should have made it twice as reliable without factoring in the new big-ass fan and larger vents.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:57 am

If I remember correctly, PS+ is a voluntary fee, so technically Sony should get a no under "paying for online.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:57 am

I don't care what you say people, PS3 has given me more hardware problems than 360 and you just can't convince me anymore that PS3 has the best hardware in the market.

But anyways I still play the console so who cares? LMFAO!

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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:34 am

Maybe try using N/A for some of them.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:04 pm

PS3's failure rate is about 5%.

Xbox 360's is 42%.

Which probably leads to more 360 sales as well.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:08 pm

HALO_REACHAROUND wrote:
PS3's failure rate is about 5%.

Xbox 360's is 42%.

Which probably leads to more 360 sales as well.

Cite your sources?
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:21 am

ign has done a PS3 vs 360 hardware comparison and it PS3 won by 7 out of 10. You have just made a biased list.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:13 am

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1080p Streaming?
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
While it doesn't have 1080p streaming, Blu-Ray can do native 1080p, while 360's is upscaled, something you forgot to mention.

Maximum Harddrive space:
Xbox 360: 250GB
Ps3: 250GB (500GB announced)
The PS3 can go up to 2TB if I recall correctly, and I think now that the 360 has flash drive support, it can go up to that number as well, maybe a little less.

Backwards Compatibility:
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
This is slightly misleading. The Xbox 360's backwards compatibility is limited to a select bunch of games from the original Xbox's library. The PS3 is backwards compatible with the PSone, and certain models are backwards-compatible with the PS2 (although I assume you're comparing the Slim models, so we can leave the PS2 out). Both should be listed as the same.

Cross game/party chat:
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
Nothing to do with hardware.

Pay for online?
Xbox 360: Yes
Ps3: Yes
This has nothing to do with hardware, and PS3 has free online. There's a difference between Playstation Plus and Xbox LIVE Gold. While Xbox LIVE Gold is the online, Playstation Plus is simply a store membership, and really has nothing to do with the online.
Overall, your comparison isn't technically wrong, but misleading.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:08 pm

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DemonWolf wrote:

1080p Streaming?
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
While it doesn't have 1080p streaming, Blu-Ray can do native 1080p, while 360's is upscaled, something you forgot to mention.

Maximum Harddrive space:
Xbox 360: 250GB
Ps3: 250GB (500GB announced)
The PS3 can go up to 2TB if I recall correctly, and I think now that the 360 has flash drive support, it can go up to that number as well, maybe a little less.

Backwards Compatibility:
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
This is slightly misleading. The Xbox 360's backwards compatibility is limited to a select bunch of games from the original Xbox's library. The PS3 is backwards compatible with the PSone, and certain models are backwards-compatible with the PS2 (although I assume you're comparing the Slim models, so we can leave the PS2 out). Both should be listed as the same.

Cross game/party chat:
Xbox 360: YES
Ps3: NO
Nothing to do with hardware.

Pay for online?
Xbox 360: Yes
Ps3: Yes
This has nothing to do with hardware, and PS3 has free online. There's a difference between Playstation Plus and Xbox LIVE Gold. While Xbox LIVE Gold is the online, Playstation Plus is simply a store membership, and really has nothing to do with the online.
Overall, your comparison isn't technically wrong, but misleading.

Both consoles can do native 1080p. Don't know what you are talking about. Even the 1080p streamed movies are demonstrating a 1920 X 1080 native resolution. The PS3 has more 1080p games, but most of them are crap except maybe GT5 which isn't even true 1080p (1280 X 1080). And even then the PS3 has way more Sub-HD games than the X360. Besides, he DID put that the X360 didn't have Blu-ray playback capabilities, so what's the problem?

As for XBL Gold vs PSN+... When you pay 4 bucks a month for XBL gold, you are not just getting online multiplayer but also all the features that PSN does not have such as cross game chat. Besides, almost every week there are discounts for certain add-ons, arcade games, or even Gold membership (I bought a 12 month subscription for only 3 bucks a month off of Live). That's essentially what PSN+ is, discounts. And most people will agree that it is hardly worth it, unlike Live which offers much more feature-wise and offers the same thing as the complete PSN experience.

Everything else you replied on; spot on. Don't see how Online features are hardware related.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:21 pm

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Both consoles can do native 1080p. Don't know what you are talking about. Even the 1080p streamed movies are demonstrating a 1920 X 1080 native resolution. The PS3 has more 1080p games, but most of them are crap except maybe GT5 which isn't even true 1080p (1280 X 1080). And even then the PS3 has way more Sub-HD games than the X360. Besides, he DID put that the X360 didn't have Blu-ray playback capabilities, so what's the problem?
I know that the streaming is native 1080p, but I'm pretty sure everything else is upscaled. I'm not sure, so you may be right on that.

As for XBL Gold vs PSN+... When you pay 4 bucks a month for XBL gold, you are not just getting online multiplayer but also all the features that PSN does not have such as cross game chat. Besides, almost every week there are discounts for certain add-ons, arcade games, or even Gold membership (I bought a 12 month subscription for only 3 bucks a month off of Live). That's essentially what PSN+ is, discounts. And most people will agree that it is hardly worth it, unlike Live which offers much more feature-wise and offers the same thing as the complete PSN experience.
You gave ONE feature that PSN does not have that you're paying for. Frankly, I (along with most people, I'm presuming) only use the online gaming and XGC features. While PSN doesn't have XGC, it does have online gaming with generally better servers. Yeah, XBL Gold members get a "Deal of the Week", but that's a deal for one game, and the deal expires after the week ends. PS+ users have the deals last much longer, and we still get our basic online features for free.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:49 pm

There are also many UI advantages over the PS3's "Ingame XMB". XBL's friendslist are more organized and the Rep system is alot more elaborate. There are also things like Voice Messaging, Cross Game Invites integration to the UI, Ingame Music for all games (not really a direct Live feature, but I guess it's still noteable right?)...

It also provides services such as Last FM radio (I've used it, it's really cool actually), and ESPN coming out later this year (?)

Deal of the Weeks and Gold Exclusives vary between games, add-ons, arcade games, and even XBL subscriptions.

As for the online server thing, that's just bullshit. I've had much more problems playing multiplayer games on PSN then on XBL...Only game on XBL that lags for me is Gears of War 2 and even then it's more of an issue with the game's netcode rather than XBL's connection to the server. Who ever started that rumor saying "PSN provides dedicated servers"....Yea that's bullshit too.. PUBLISHERS provide dedicated servers to games. Sony provides dedicated servers for some of their multiplayer titles (MAG, Resistance, Killzone..) But that doesn't mean Xbox Live has no games with dedicated servers. Forza 3 used dedicated, most EA games use dedicated (BFBC2, Medal of Honor), Valve games (L4D) uses dedicated servers. And so on. Even then though, I'd say roughly 90ish% of all multiplayer titles on both PSN and XBL run off of P2P servers which depend off of the host's connection.
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PostSubject: Re: How Does The 360 Slim Hardware Compare to Ps3 Slim?   Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:12 am

@ trf
Whatever, I didn't actually mean "system hardware" I meant how the systems compare overall but not in terms of games library. Features one has and the other hasn't.

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