Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:37 am
Im not hating so Im fine.
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:52 am
No one is denying it influenced the industry...
daveMastaKill Chief Warrant Officer 5
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:01 am
Still waiting for my goddam copy of Halo Reach.
TRF Chief Warrant Officer 5
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:22 am
Half of the things had been done before. Dual analog? They just said the Timesplitters did it first. The two-weapon thing wasn't invented by Halo as far as I know. I've seen it in games released before Halo: CE. Halo 2 didn't invent console multiplayer, just popularized it, although I guess Matchmaking is something. I can't say I know what game brought Matchmaking to the industry. Yeah, Bungie brought custom content and films and whatnot to consoles with Halo 3, but they didn't invent it or anything.
So the only ones I don't know about are Matchmaking and regenerating health. Halo did revolutionize the industry in some ways, but a lot of it was done before, and just wasn't as hyped or popular.
Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:12 pm
TRF wrote:
Half of the things had been done before. Dual analog? They just said the Timesplitters did it first. The two-weapon thing wasn't invented by Halo as far as I know. I've seen it in games released before Halo: CE. Halo 2 didn't invent console multiplayer, just popularized it, although I guess Matchmaking is something. I can't say I know what game brought Matchmaking to the industry. Yeah, Bungie brought custom content and films and whatnot to consoles with Halo 3, but they didn't invent it or anything.
So the only ones I don't know about are Matchmaking and regenerating health. Halo did revolutionize the industry in some ways, but a lot of it was done before, and just wasn't as hyped or popular.
Watch the vid.Who did it first is irrelevent.Halo evolved the industry, those games who created the features first didnt
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:13 pm
Arbiteris wrote:
TRF wrote:
Half of the things had been done before. Dual analog? They just said the Timesplitters did it first. The two-weapon thing wasn't invented by Halo as far as I know. I've seen it in games released before Halo: CE. Halo 2 didn't invent console multiplayer, just popularized it, although I guess Matchmaking is something. I can't say I know what game brought Matchmaking to the industry. Yeah, Bungie brought custom content and films and whatnot to consoles with Halo 3, but they didn't invent it or anything.
So the only ones I don't know about are Matchmaking and regenerating health. Halo did revolutionize the industry in some ways, but a lot of it was done before, and just wasn't as hyped or popular.
Watch the vid.Who did it first is irrelevent.Halo evolved the industry, those games who created the features first didnt
I'm not disagreeing with you. All I'm saying is that the "innovations" that Bungie brought to the table were done before, but never took off. Bungie popularized these innovations.
Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:52 pm
pfft. Halo still sucks.
jk
ZeInFormer Command Master Chief Petty Officer
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:09 pm
TRF wrote:
Half of the things had been done before. Dual analog? They just said the Timesplitters did it first. The two-weapon thing wasn't invented by Halo as far as I know. I've seen it in games released before Halo: CE. Halo 2 didn't invent console multiplayer, just popularized it, although I guess Matchmaking is something. I can't say I know what game brought Matchmaking to the industry. Yeah, Bungie brought custom content and films and whatnot to consoles with Halo 3, but they didn't invent it or anything.
So the only ones I don't know about are Matchmaking and regenerating health. Halo did revolutionize the industry in some ways, but a lot of it was done before, and just wasn't as hyped or popular.
Most people get confused with the "innovations" that Halo brought to the gaming world. Most games already did those type of stuff: regen life, two weapons, and yadayada ya. But, most games that had those features were pretty much bad games and how I know it is I like to discover new FPS games, and I would usually use Youtube to watch gameplay to decide myself if I should buy it or not. Not sure if I ever discovered any good games with these features, but Halo seems to be the first that I found. The original MOH had dual analog features. Halo is not the first "good multiplayer" since Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were pretty much taking peoples lives before Halo even existed, and for matchmaking, I guess Halo was the first to do that in consoles-I'm not sure. Oh and Bungie even stated they weren't sure if they were innovative with Halo. They basically thought Halo got big because of the advanced AI.
Still I give Halo a lot of credit for what its doing to the gaming world. Name me a popular shooter that actually did any of these features that Halo popularized: Shogo, Doom, Quake, Half-Life, System Shock 1-2, Deus Ex, Unreal Tournament, Quake 2, Quake 3, Soldier of Fortune, Medal of Honor, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Red Faction, AVP, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem 3D, FEAR, and so on. That's all I can think of on the top of my head, and Halo is pretty "new" compared to all those games .So what I'm basically trying to say is it perfected console shooters by using subtle features that most good FPS games really did not want to use due to w/e reasons.
Alan1994 Chief Warrant Officer 3
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:20 pm
Halo made all those features popular...That's as good as inventing them IMO. If it wasn't for Halo, we would still have 6 weapons and pretty limited multiplayer.
Freemon34' Master Chief Petty Officer
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:29 pm
Alan1994 wrote:
Halo made all those features popular...That's as good as inventing them IMO. If it wasn't for Halo, we would still have 6 weapons and pretty limited multiplayer.
Don't Diss Duke >:I
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:40 pm
I'm sorry but Socom was the first online game with a huge following on a console(selling almsot 3 million before Halo 2 was released), and while Halo 3 released before LBP, LBP announced level editors before Halo 3.
Sorry for bursting your bubble HJ.
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:25 pm
Eiffel 65 wrote:
I'm sorry but Socom was the first online game with a huge following on a console(selling almsot 3 million before Halo 2 was released), and while Halo 3 released before LBP, LBP announced level editors before Halo 3.
Sorry for bursting your bubble HJ.
Isn't Socom a TPS? And wtf? LBP's level editor is like day and night compared to Halo 3's forge. Again Halo didn't invent multiplayer OR map editors, it made them popular.
You know what the most annoying part is about the Halo hate? It's the accusations. I don't recall Bungie EVER making claims of them being the most innovative or anything like that.
Even if Halo is the most generic game on the planet, that's just more of a reason NOT to hate it. If you hate Halo because it's generic, THEN YOU F*CKING HATE THE GENRE!!
Freemon34' Master Chief Petty Officer
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Subject: Re: To all halo haters on here Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:30 pm
Alan1994 wrote:
Eiffel 65 wrote:
I'm sorry but Socom was the first online game with a huge following on a console(selling almsot 3 million before Halo 2 was released), and while Halo 3 released before LBP, LBP announced level editors before Halo 3.
Sorry for bursting your bubble HJ.
Isn't Socom a TPS? And wtf? LBP's level editor is like day and night compared to Halo 3's forge. Again Halo didn't invent multiplayer OR map editors, it made them popular.
You know what the most annoying part is about the Halo hate? It's the accusations. I don't recall Bungie EVER making claims of them being the most innovative or anything like that.
Even if Halo is the most generic game on the planet, that's just more of a reason NOT to hate it. If you hate Halo because it's generic, THEN YOU F*CKING HATE THE GENRE!!
1st off, most socoms can be played in either 1st or 3rd person(not the ones made by Slant Shit)
2nd, LBP's level creator is leaps and bounds beyond forge, especially LBP2's. The only downside to LBP's is the fact that its hard for most ppl to make a good level.
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