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PostSubject: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:35 pm

BlackBond is clearly mixing up Coincidence and Standard. CLEARLY.
The only 1 I really think is copying, is the PocketStatiton and the VMU.
Maybe Achievements and Trophies.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:00 pm

Lmao. Well to be fair, if a specific feature becomes successful, if you're a company you're just gonna add it to your system if gamers request it.
But yeah, it shows Sony's lack of innovation.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:02 pm

ive said this before nearly every thing playstation does it is copied from someone else. heck if it werent for nintendo, playstation wouldnt even exsist
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:11 pm

Sony just lack in innovation.Look at PS Move for example.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:25 pm

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Sony just lack in innovation.Look at PS Move for example.

How could Sony have made it any different though? In looks that is. For the type of motion control they were going for the Wand and Navi controller are the only designs that would fit.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:45 pm

PocketStation....omfg i totally forgot about that thing LMÃO...old times.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:56 pm

Well some of those comparisons were dumb, like Xbox LIVE and PSN. How is Sony expected to NOT go into this generation with an organized online system? The guide button thing was stupid, as was the shoulder button thing.

I appreciate how Nintendo takes risks, but Sony does bring a lot to the table.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:20 pm

I remember reading somewhere that Sony actually had analogue sticks patented before Nintendo even made their controllers. I could be wrong though.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:23 pm

Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:36 pm

Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:57 pm

Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:59 pm

Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:03 pm

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Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges.

Yup and as much as it was looked down upon, I thank them for using UMD's for psp and not those ds cartridges. They only held freaking 100 mb until like a year ago where they were increased to 500mb.

500 is fine but 100 is ridiculous! You can fit a slightly upgraded gameboy game on that but that's it!

A game like Breath Of Fire 3 which has no voice acting, 3d but 2d sprite visuals with an isometric view, really zoomed out, so not hardware pushing at all, is about 300mb. lol yeah.... so imagine putting that on ds.
3 cartridges? (that would be okay except no ds game makers want to do that, probably coz it's a handheld and you don't want to be switching when you're like out places, you just want to carry one game with you inside the system itself).

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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:43 pm

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Arbiteris wrote:
Sony just lack in innovation.Look at PS Move for example.

How could Sony have made it any different though? In looks that is. For the type of motion control they were going for the Wand and Navi controller are the only designs that would fit.

They could have made something different and innovative, not do what nintendo has done 4 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:22 pm

i wonder who knows this fact? after the snes nintendo went to sony to form a partnership to make a cd based games console, but nintendo was worried about piracy, so then broke off and made the n64. sony on the other hand decided to take what they have learnt and make their own cd console and the rest is history. sony have been riding on the back of nintendo ever since No
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:34 pm

Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.

So what? If MS didn't enter the console gaming division, Dreamcast would have still died and so would it's terrible online service. Sony wouldn't have as much effort into PSN to try to match XBL (imagine PSN now without all the firmware updates....you would have to leave the game just to check your messages), and future generation consoles wouldn't have very decent online services since there really isn't one that goes above and beyond like XBL does.

So yes, no matter how much you hate MS or "M$", they pretty much made the frame for what current generation consoles should be like. Likewise, without Sony we MIGHT still be using cartridges.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:47 pm

raspymanic1 wrote:
i wonder who knows this fact? after the snes nintendo went to sony to form a partnership to make a cd based games console, but nintendo was worried about piracy, so then broke off and made the n64. sony on the other hand decided to take what they have learnt and make their own cd console and the rest is history. sony have been riding on the back of nintendo ever since No
How exactly? Sony went off and did their own thing and have been incredibly successful in the console market since then.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:51 pm

Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.

So what? If MS didn't enter the console gaming division, Dreamcast would have still died and so would it's terrible online service. Sony wouldn't have as much effort into PSN to try to match XBL (imagine PSN now without all the firmware updates....you would have to leave the game just to check your messages), and future generation consoles wouldn't have very decent online services since there really isn't one that goes above and beyond like XBL does.

So yes, no matter how much you hate MS or "M$", they pretty much made the frame for what current generation consoles should be like. Likewise, without Sony we MIGHT still be using cartridges.
And??????
Read you're sentence correctly.
I was just correcting you. And I never said I hate M$.
M$ has shaped the current gen. No doubt about it. There services had a bigger impact. Not the first, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:54 pm

Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.

So what? If MS didn't enter the console gaming division, Dreamcast would have still died and so would it's terrible online service. Sony wouldn't have as much effort into PSN to try to match XBL (imagine PSN now without all the firmware updates....you would have to leave the game just to check your messages), and future generation consoles wouldn't have very decent online services since there really isn't one that goes above and beyond like XBL does.

So yes, no matter how much you hate MS or "M$", they pretty much made the frame for what current generation consoles should be like. Likewise, without Sony we MIGHT still be using cartridges.
And??????
Read you're sentence correctly.
I was just correcting you. And I never said I hate M$.

I was just proving a point sir. Dreamcast's online service did nothing for the modern-day console. And XBL was in production before the Dreamcast I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:24 pm

Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.

So what? If MS didn't enter the console gaming division, Dreamcast would have still died and so would it's terrible online service. Sony wouldn't have as much effort into PSN to try to match XBL (imagine PSN now without all the firmware updates....you would have to leave the game just to check your messages), and future generation consoles wouldn't have very decent online services since there really isn't one that goes above and beyond like XBL does.

So yes, no matter how much you hate MS or "M$", they pretty much made the frame for what current generation consoles should be like. Likewise, without Sony we MIGHT still be using cartridges.
And??????
Read you're sentence correctly.
I was just correcting you. And I never said I hate M$.

I was just proving a point sir. Dreamcast's online service did nothing for the modern-day console. And XBL was in production before the Dreamcast I believe.

The dreamcast was made years before anyone even thought about the xbox.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:34 pm

Shin_Akuma wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Teckno wrote:
Alan1994 wrote:
Playstation never was innovative really, but I will give props to Sony for being the first console to switch to disc formats instead of cartridges. Oh and Other OS support before they took it away for PS3.

To me Xbox has done alot for modern gaming. The first online service , HDD integration, ingame music, etc.

Nintendo however, despite the Wii's garbageness, has taken the most risks in their time with the console gaming industry. And I salute Nintendo for that.
Actually, Sega had the first Online Service. SegaNet.
HDD yea, but, Nintendo had DiskDrives. N64DD Laughing
Same purpose.
Ingame Music, yesseri.

Seriously? It must of sucked ass if no one ever heard of it or used it.
Just saying M$ wasn't the first to make those.

So what? If MS didn't enter the console gaming division, Dreamcast would have still died and so would it's terrible online service. Sony wouldn't have as much effort into PSN to try to match XBL (imagine PSN now without all the firmware updates....you would have to leave the game just to check your messages), and future generation consoles wouldn't have very decent online services since there really isn't one that goes above and beyond like XBL does.

So yes, no matter how much you hate MS or "M$", they pretty much made the frame for what current generation consoles should be like. Likewise, without Sony we MIGHT still be using cartridges.
And??????
Read you're sentence correctly.
I was just correcting you. And I never said I hate M$.

I was just proving a point sir. Dreamcast's online service did nothing for the modern-day console. And XBL was in production before the Dreamcast I believe.

The dreamcast was made years before anyone even thought about the xbox.

Wait, did the online service launch when the console released?
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:28 am

the point: everybody copies everybody, even Sony.

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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:19 am

I'm pretty sure sony copied the slim stuff from nintendo or SEGA and i dont know about you but the shit about PS MOVE being in development since 2002 sounds like a load of bullshit. The thing is copying is good because if theres a good feature in one game or one console shouldn't it be added on to the other console so it also gets a good feature?
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence or Conjecture    Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:02 am

TRF wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
i wonder who knows this fact? after the snes nintendo went to sony to form a partnership to make a cd based games console, but nintendo was worried about piracy, so then broke off and made the n64. sony on the other hand decided to take what they have learnt and make their own cd console and the rest is history. sony have been riding on the back of nintendo ever since No
How exactly? Sony went off and did their own thing and have been incredibly successful in the console market since then.

Sales:

Wii > Ps3
DS > Psp

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