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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:29 am


If HE says Forza 3 is better than GT5, it must be true. He was trashing Forza 3 for a year.

People get mixed up on certain things, just because one game might be better than the other, it doesn't mean its a bad game. Most games that get compared are so close in quality thats why there is a debate. You dont see Uncharted 2 getting compared to a 007 game or some other lame third person title.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:43 am

^ Can't believe I watched all that video.
but nice to know he can realise the flaws of GT5 and can actually give props to an xbox 360 game! Razz
lol I found it funny when he mentioned Forza's rewind "this isn't prince of persia!"
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:33 pm

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MLD, railing on and on about GT5 (Demonwolf included), just seems desperate. =/ But hey, if you want to stoop to PS3 fanboy levels and rail on a good game that was well received and loved by fans (like they did with Alan Wake), then fine by me. =) Carry on. One of the main reasons why ya'll do this, is because you really have nothing else to talk about regarding the PS3. That's why I say REACH has been out for awhile. =P

Alan Wake being the first entry into the series is irrelevant. Alan Wake (by your standards) heavily underperformed and is a bigger flop than GT5. There is no excuse for Alan Wake, it had a 5 year development cycle and was being programmed on what you call the EASIEST architecture with a multiplatform engine. Remedy had a solid rep and made quality titles in the past, but by your standards their quality game is a flop. PD had to deal with what you've described as bad for developers, and they had to make the engine from the ground up.

If you say GT5 is a disappointment, you're just running Alan Wake deeper into the mud whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

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As for Alan Wake. 5 years? Well Remedy on its own yes, but they weren't with Microsoft till 2006. Then they never really started to make it untill the end of Shadowrun was done in the making (well Microsoft i mean on this not remedy). From want I seen and read if Remedy Entertainment had no support with Microsoft, it would have been a crappy multiplate game which would have scored 50-65% 70% at best. Not to mention it proberly wouldn't be finished till 2012.


I think what MLD has mentioned, that is the big difference between them is that the fact that GT is the biggest franchises Sony has. Even bigger than God of War series till untill this gen.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:43 pm


that humpmasterflex vid reminded me of the vid when MLD impersonated him....hilarious... even more so when it has do to with acceptance....which is the only thing a GT5 has right now, acceptance

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:19 am

humpmasters vid surprised me........

but why did he bash forza 3s rewind feature.....he knows its an option right?

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:57 pm

You have now idea how hard I loled in GTPlanet when they thanked God it didn't have it, and now Im reading post on how a little mistake is costing them the race... now rewing is a viable option? that breed is sad

BTW 84 on Metacritic now
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:37 am

Yeah I finally opened up my Forza 3 I got with the holiday bundle and thank GOD for the rewind. I haven't played a racing sim since Gran Turismo 2. Call it casual, I call it saving time lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:37 am

^ Yep. Racing games are easily one of the most frustrating games of all time because you can spend the entire race in first place, and just one bump near the end of the race will spin you out, and then you get overtaken!
Rewind helps so much. Call it a cheat if you like but at the end of the day, it probaby helps forza players get more skilled. They see their mistakes and can deal with them straight away, see what they did wrong, etc Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:05 am

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^ Yep. Racing games are easily one of the most frustrating games of all time because you can spend the entire race in first place, and just one bump near the end of the race will spin you out, and then you get overtaken!
Rewind helps so much. Call it a cheat if you like but at the end of the day, it probaby helps forza players get more skilled. They see their mistakes and can deal with them straight away, see what they did wrong, etc Very Happy

To be honest, no. The rewind feature doesnt help you to get better, its rather the opposite when its enabled. You see you can be "sloopy" and still get away with it, and if something goes horribly wrong you just rewind.

However I like it...
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:51 am

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^ Yep. Racing games are easily one of the most frustrating games of all time because you can spend the entire race in first place, and just one bump near the end of the race will spin you out, and then you get overtaken!
Rewind helps so much. Call it a cheat if you like but at the end of the day, it probaby helps forza players get more skilled. They see their mistakes and can deal with them straight away, see what they did wrong, etc Very Happy

To be honest, no. The rewind feature doesnt help you to get better, its rather the opposite when its enabled. You see you can be "sloopy" and still get away with it, and if something goes horribly wrong you just rewind.

However I like it...

No, because in most racers you drive, mess up and lose. Then you have to restart and you didn't see how you messed up and you have to start the race again and hope you dont make the same mistake even though you're not exactly sure how you did badly.
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In Forza you rewind, see your flaws and can directly find ways to prevent it. Then the next races you do, you should be better Razz
Well thats just the way I see it lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:35 am

Remember the hilarious physics fails Forza 3 had? (search forza 3 fail on youtube)
GT5 has some of the same as well XD


<-- thats my fav XD
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:06 pm

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DemonWolf wrote:
^ Yep. Racing games are easily one of the most frustrating games of all time because you can spend the entire race in first place, and just one bump near the end of the race will spin you out, and then you get overtaken!
Rewind helps so much. Call it a cheat if you like but at the end of the day, it probaby helps forza players get more skilled. They see their mistakes and can deal with them straight away, see what they did wrong, etc Very Happy

To be honest, no. The rewind feature doesnt help you to get better, its rather the opposite when its enabled. You see you can be "sloopy" and still get away with it, and if something goes horribly wrong you just rewind.

However I like it...

It helps you to get better, I use it to find the adequate entry speed into a corner... I keep rewinding until I find the proper speed, angle and it helps to organize a way to pass an opponent in a corner. As a "corner dissector" is a great ally... an also for when u get distracted by life, lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:19 pm

^^^^ LMAO that really is an epic fail
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:13 pm

How many copies has it sold so far? I'm sure its not record breaking lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:34 am

Xmarksthespot wrote:
How many copies has it sold so far? I'm sure its not record breaking lol

check vgchartz

then check ODST first week to laugh

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:50 am

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wow... it must've been so bad that all ps3 fanboys flagged it which is why it's removed. Wtf lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:43 pm

Who cares about the sales?
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:20 pm

Wow its down to 84 now on metacritic
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:00 pm

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Wow its down to 84 now on metacritic

Really? That counts as Low AA Razz 85 and above is high AA.
Ouch, fatal blow.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:37 pm

It only proves my point that scores don't mean anything but a useless number taking up space.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:57 am

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It only proves my point that scores don't mean anything but a useless number taking up space.

well not exactly. The score reflects a lot of independent reviewers expressing certain disapointments in the game. While I dont own the game I still have seen proof and reasoning from the reviewers to back up their claim.

In short, PD made a great sim but slacked off on the video game aspect: online, community features, shadows, graphics of 800/1000 cars (ouch lol). Theres other little gripes people seemed to have.

Officially GT5 is an amazing game....but is no longer king of sims. Cause in the end, while thye argue its a better sim, the fact that Forza is a great sim AND a great "video game" makes Forza overall win out. Cause were gamers.....we need video game staples. Sims dont mean crap if the video game aspects are lacking.

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:52 pm

GeneralMLD wrote:
Paratrooper1n0 wrote:
It only proves my point that scores don't mean anything but a useless number taking up space.

well not exactly. The score reflects a lot of independent reviewers expressing certain disapointments in the game. While I dont own the game I still have seen proof and reasoning from the reviewers to back up their claim.

In short, PD made a great sim but slacked off on the video game aspect: online, community features, shadows, graphics of 800/1000 cars (ouch lol). Theres other little gripes people seemed to have.

Officially GT5 is an amazing game....but is no longer king of sims. Cause in the end, while thye argue its a better sim, the fact that Forza is a great sim AND a great "video game" makes Forza overall win out. Cause were gamers.....we need video game staples. Sims dont mean crap if the video game aspects are lacking.

Are you claiming that Forza is now the King of Sims?
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:31 pm

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well not exactly. The score reflects a lot of independent reviewers expressing certain disapointments in the game. While I dont own the game I still have seen proof and reasoning from the reviewers to back up their claim.
The score reflects an opinion no greater than anyone else's. A review is good for nothing more than objectively talking about the game. The score itself (which is what Paratrooper was talking about) means nothing.

I'd take Forza over GT5, though.





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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:51 pm

GeneralMLD wrote:
Paratrooper1n0 wrote:
It only proves my point that scores don't mean anything but a useless number taking up space.

well not exactly. The score reflects a lot of independent reviewers expressing certain disapointments in the game. While I dont own the game I still have seen proof and reasoning from the reviewers to back up their claim.

In short, PD made a great sim but slacked off on the video game aspect: online, community features, shadows, graphics of 800/1000 cars (ouch lol). Theres other little gripes people seemed to have.

Officially GT5 is an amazing game....but is no longer king of sims. Cause in the end, while thye argue its a better sim, the fact that Forza is a great sim AND a great "video game" makes Forza overall win out. Cause were gamers.....we need video game staples. Sims dont mean crap if the video game aspects are lacking.

There's a difference between a score and a review. A score is typically bought off by a company (I.E. Halo 3, ODST, MW2, BO...) and a review is actually the reviewers view on the game. I have both Forza 3 and GT5. GT5 does reign on top. Maybe you should get a PS3 before you talk about it or its games cause that makes you irrelevant. You cannot tell which console is better for you or why the other console is better or which game is better if you can't play the game! That isn't only pointed at you, it's pointed at everyone who hasn't owned both consoles. Wiilover07, the truth, you...
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