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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:50 pm

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Once Gt5 gets the same amount of reviews as Forza 3 and is still lower then you can call it whatever you want. Also as Shoke(Jamin) said they got copis of Gt5 on Monday and the first reviews came out today and late last night. That gives them 2-3 days to play a massive game like GT5, and write the review. Also as Alan said NO REVIEWER whatsoever even mentioned the online (which is awesome). Sounds fishy to me. It also saddens me that so guys call GT5 a flop and don't Alan Wake one even the same EXACT thing happened to it. *goes to play GT5*

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:55 pm

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It's not a flop if you buy it and like the game. Opinions>facts.

Well that statement is kind of...retarded Razz but I get what your saying. Ratings could say its a flop, but if you like the game then who cares?
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:56 pm

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It's not a flop if you buy it and like the game. Opinions>facts.

Well that statement is kind of...retarded Razz but I get what your saying. Ratings could say its a flop, but if you like the game then who cares?


Exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:18 pm

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It's not a flop if you buy it and like the game. Opinions>facts.

Well that statement is kind of...retarded Razz but I get what your saying. Ratings could say its a flop, but if you like the game then who cares?


Exactly.

I <3 the game. And yes sad that reviewers didnt wait for online. But it's twelve so far. Forza 3 has 90 reviews. so we have to wait and see.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:03 am

A flop? Its AA. The game is gonna be great.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:24 am

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theassassins wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
theassassins wrote:
It's not a flop if you buy it and like the game. Opinions>facts.

Well that statement is kind of...retarded Razz but I get what your saying. Ratings could say its a flop, but if you like the game then who cares?


Exactly.

I <3 the game. And yes sad that reviewers didnt wait for online. But it's twelve so far. Forza 3 has 90 reviews. so we have to wait and see.


90 reviews? Holy shit that is a lot of reviews.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:29 am

sales not scores = flop or not lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:31 am

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sales not scores = flop or not lol!

I didn't even know that you still posted here.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:18 am

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sales not scores = flop or not lol!


QFT, the game is still going to sell, and that's the determinant. Reviews are just trolling fodder, lol

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:42 am

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YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!


Its a flop fully. for the reason of the amount of years it took them to make it and it only got AA.

This isn't about sales neither which PS3 fanboys can't even counter on Smile.

Calm down it's only 11 reviews. and the game is awesome!

12 now and its still at 86

13 now and it at 87. Anyone who published their review on Wednesday obviously rushed it. Wait for some people to actually play the game and I'm sure it will at least reach 90.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:07 pm

raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:18 pm

Its back down to 86 now based on 18 critics

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5

Also worth noting it has an average of 8.7 based on 38 reviews on N4G

http://n4g.com/channel/gran-turismo-5/reviews/all/default/default/1/reviewgrid
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:39 pm

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YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!


Its a flop fully. for the reason of the amount of years it took them to make it and it only got AA.

This isn't about sales neither which PS3 fanboys can't even counter on Smile.

Calm down it's only 11 reviews. and the game is awesome!

18 now.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:36 pm

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Its back down to 86 now based on 18 critics

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5

Also worth noting it has an average of 8.7 based on 38 reviews on N4G

http://n4g.com/channel/gran-turismo-5/reviews/all/default/default/1/reviewgrid

Forza has 90 reviews total and on Gamerankings GT5 as 88.88 (8 reviews) so I expect it to be raised to a 90 in the next few days. Not to mention some sites might change there scores because they left out a huge portion of the game (the online). Plus OPM, OPM UK, gamespot and other sites haven't reviewed the game yet BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING THEIR TIME !! and not trying to get the review out as fast as possible. By the way you and rasymaniac are way to happy about this. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:56 pm

I expect this game to get a score of 90 or close to that.Like Forza

Its unlikely that it will go higher than that
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:48 pm

Ooh I hope it stays under 90. Just for the lolz XD
If not, well perhaps it deserves a AAA rating. But still, for the console war, this being less than AAA is hilarious Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:06 pm

You guys got it ALL wrong.

We shouldn't be hoping that the competition is failing! Do you wanna know why Forza 3 is so awesome? It's because of the GT series. Think about it. Turn10 always wanted to 1UP Polyphony in everything they do. They managed to add interior views to every one of their cars just because they were under the impression that Gran Turismo 5 was doing the same. Forza Motorsport 4 will have night racing and weather effects just because GT5 has it, quote me on that.

The flaws in GT5 are a bad sign. I mean sure it means that Forza 4 could easily top it, but this means that Turn10 wouldn't have to try as hard. If GT5 had incredibly realistic damage, then Turn10 would have been motivated to do better. But it's not, so why should Turn10 go through hoops with car manufactures to allow more and better damage modeling in their game? Exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:42 am

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:10 am

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TheJubJub5721 wrote:
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sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess

And sales help you how....? We are on the consumer side.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:33 am

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You guys got it ALL wrong.

We shouldn't be hoping that the competition is failing! Do you wanna know why Forza 3 is so awesome? It's because of the GT series. Think about it. Turn10 always wanted to 1UP Polyphony in everything they do. They managed to add interior views to every one of their cars just because they were under the impression that Gran Turismo 5 was doing the same. Forza Motorsport 4 will have night racing and weather effects just because GT5 has it, quote me on that.

The flaws in GT5 are a bad sign. I mean sure it means that Forza 4 could easily top it, but this means that Turn10 wouldn't have to try as hard. If GT5 had incredibly realistic damage, then Turn10 would have been motivated to do better. But it's not, so why should Turn10 go through hoops with car manufactures to allow more and better damage modeling in their game? Exactly.

+1

Good games on PS3 benefits 360 consumers in the long term, because it raises the bar forcing 360 devs to make better games to stay competitive.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:34 am

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sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess

And sales help you how....? We are on the consumer side.

Sales can affect us consumers because if a good game sells poorly, it can hurt the dev let alone the franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:58 am

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raspymanic1 wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess

And sales help you how....? We are on the consumer side.

Sales can affect us consumers because if a good game sells poorly, it can hurt the dev let alone the franchise.

Well you guys think selling well is having multi millions, when in reality selling 1 million is good. Look at Killzone, it "didn't sell very well", but it didn't hurt the franchise or the dev.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:45 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
Arbiteris wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess

And sales help you how....? We are on the consumer side.

Sales can affect us consumers because if a good game sells poorly, it can hurt the dev let alone the franchise.

Well you guys think selling well is having multi millions, when in reality selling 1 million is good. Look at Killzone, it "didn't sell very well", but it didn't hurt the franchise or the dev.

thats different....KZ devs are owned by sony.........sony is obligated to keep them employed unless absolutely necessary

a independent 3rd party dev however is another story

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:47 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!
I don't get the "sales don't".
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:37 pm

Aksys wrote:
TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!
I don't get the "sales don't".

He means sales doesn't equal qality

True, they dont
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