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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:02 pm

TheJubJub5721 wrote:
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sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!

i meant on a buisness side, for the game to take this long and to cost so much to make imo it needs to sale at least 5m to be a sucess

And sales help you how....? We are on the consumer side.

Sales can affect us consumers because if a good game sells poorly, it can hurt the dev let alone the franchise.

Well you guys think selling well is having multi millions, when in reality selling 1 million is good. Look at Killzone, it "didn't sell very well", but it didn't hurt the franchise or the dev.

Well look at Mafia 2. That was in development for 4 years or something and they spend millions of dollars developing technology for that game and it sold poorly. True it may have sold a million but there is no way that the developers broke even on Mafia 2 and now they are screwed.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:26 pm

Gran Turismo's trees look amazing Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:16 pm

I jack off to 3D trees.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:18 pm

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TheJubJub5721 wrote:
raspymanic1 wrote:
sales not scores = flop or not lol!

Sales don't = quality

Quality = how good a game is lol!
I don't get the "sales don't".

He means sales doesn't equal qality

True, they dont
True.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:11 pm

My dick explodes when I see grass in my Mafia II game.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:34 am

Alan1994 wrote:
I jack off to 3D trees.



Pickles wrote:
My dick explodes when I see grass in my Mafia II game.


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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:43 pm

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Well look at Mafia 2. That was in development for 4 years or something and they spend millions of dollars developing technology for that game and it sold poorly. True it may have sold a million but there is no way that the developers broke even on Mafia 2 and now they are screwed.
Think of the INVESTORS.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:33 am

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ghost23 wrote:

Well look at Mafia 2. That was in development for 4 years or something and they spend millions of dollars developing technology for that game and it sold poorly. True it may have sold a million but there is no way that the developers broke even on Mafia 2 and now they are screwed.
Think of the INVESTORS.

BRAH, I put my life savings into that game.

Srs business.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:20 am

Thank you DW, for ur...beautiful art. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:39 am

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Thank you DW, for ur...beautiful art. Laughing

art?! It's a photo!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:04 pm

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Thank you DW, for ur...beautiful art. Laughing

art?! It's a photo!!!!
I'LL BuY IT FOR 1 POST!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:33 pm

Reviews = Flop?
SO a game flops according to someone else's opinion? Huh.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:50 pm

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Reviews = Flop?
SO a game flops according to someone else's opinion? Huh.

A game is a flop if it fails to meet it's hype/expectations.
Most expected this to get 90+ from critics. It didn't.
Most expected Forza 3 to get 90+ from critics. It did.
It's not about their opinion, it's about people's opinions on what opinion critics have.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:53 pm

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Reviews = Flop?
SO a game flops according to someone else's opinion? Huh.

games flop on all sides.

the point is: are you man enough to deal with it.........or do you make excuses.

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:31 pm

Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:13 pm

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Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.

it was hyped to be 90+.....hence the flop. Guess your the second group of people. I personally was disapointed when Alan Wake and Fable 3 flopped (both were AAA hyped)............but you take it and move on.

stop being sensitive.

bad AI
bland tracks
textures can be off
standard cars no cockpit view and look nowhere as good as the premiums
online modes are a joke compared to forza 3
no personalization to the cars, unlike forza 3

It was all in my recent vid. IGN called it right: Its a great simulator but a mediocre game.

and we sir..............play video games. Simulators arent worth shit if the GAME is suffering.

and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.

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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:45 pm

GeneralMLD wrote:
GrandMasterZillah wrote:
Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.

it was hyped to be 90+.....hence the flop. Guess your the second group of people. I personally was disapointed when Alan Wake and Fable 3 flopped (both were AAA hyped)............but you take it and move on.

stop being sensitive.

bad AI
bland tracks
textures can be off
standard cars no cockpit view and look nowhere as good as the premiums
online modes are a joke compared to forza 3
no personalization to the cars, unlike forza 3

It was all in my recent vid. IGN called it right: Its a great simulator but a mediocre game.

and we sir..............play video games. Simulators arent worth shit if the GAME is suffering.

and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.

The words of a fanboy are meaningless. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:56 pm

Jamin wrote:
GeneralMLD wrote:
GrandMasterZillah wrote:
Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.

it was hyped to be 90+.....hence the flop. Guess your the second group of people. I personally was disapointed when Alan Wake and Fable 3 flopped (both were AAA hyped)............but you take it and move on.

stop being sensitive.

bad AI
bland tracks
textures can be off
standard cars no cockpit view and look nowhere as good as the premiums
online modes are a joke compared to forza 3
no personalization to the cars, unlike forza 3

It was all in my recent vid. IGN called it right: Its a great simulator but a mediocre game.

and we sir..............play video games. Simulators arent worth shit if the GAME is suffering.

and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.

The words of a fanboy are meaningless. =)

Wrong. Bias though fanboys may be.....it is stupid to disapprove of everything they say when they present a valid point.

my above points have some merit



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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:52 am

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Wrong. Bias though fanboys may be.....it is stupid to disapprove of everything they say when they present a valid point.

my above points have some merit
The game is good. =) Deal with it. Me? I don't care for it, for the simple fact that it doesn't have System Link. My friends and I planned on buying wheels and playing it together, but now we're uninterested due to a simple feature being excluded. The feature was in some of their previous games, so wtf? Why not have it in one of the biggest releases?

And BTW, saying things like "my points have some merit", makes it sound like you haven't even convinced yourself of your own, and makes people question why you're even making such statements.

What I was replying to before was this part of your post:
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and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.

Which is why I posted that pic of Alan Wake. Don't make fun of your neighbor for having a few patches of crab grass in his yard, when yours is has crab grass, dandelions, and foxtails. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:46 am

You're just saying that cause it's MLD. I wouldn't say it's a flop, IT'S GOOD, but it's really underwhelming and had way more hype than Alan Wake. I'd consider GT5 being the second biggest disappointment this year, FFXIII being the first.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:05 am

GeneralMLD wrote:
GrandMasterZillah wrote:
Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.

it was hyped to be 90+.....hence the flop. Guess your the second group of people. I personally was disapointed when Alan Wake and Fable 3 flopped (both were AAA hyped)............but you take it and move on.

stop being sensitive.

bad AI
bland tracks
textures can be off
standard cars no cockpit view and look nowhere as good as the premiums
online modes are a joke compared to forza 3


no personalization to the cars, unlike forza 3

It was all in my recent vid. IGN called it right: Its a great simulator but a mediocre game.

and we sir..............play video games. Simulators arent worth shit if the GAME is suffering.

and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.
thank you MLD i couldnt of said it any better
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:10 am

as i write this 1.8 million gt5s have been sold in 2 days. i work with 10 other people in my work place 7 of them have a ps3 and all of them have gt5................5 of them told me that gt5 is crap lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:38 am

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You're just saying that cause it's MLD. I wouldn't say it's a flop, IT'S GOOD, but it's really underwhelming and had way more hype than Alan Wake. I'd consider GT5 being the second biggest disappointment this year, FFXIII being the first.
I would have replied that way to anybody. You know that I don't discriminate. Razz More hype than Alan Wake?! Lol, I don't think so. Alan Wake was blown way out of proportion, and especially on this forum. XD After it released, there wasn't much talk about Alan Wake, except that it was still a great game regardless of the underwhelming scores and terrible sales.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:19 am

Jamin wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
You're just saying that cause it's MLD. I wouldn't say it's a flop, IT'S GOOD, but it's really underwhelming and had way more hype than Alan Wake. I'd consider GT5 being the second biggest disappointment this year, FFXIII being the first.
I would have replied that way to anybody. You know that I don't discriminate. Razz More hype than Alan Wake?! Lol, I don't think so. Alan Wake was blown way out of proportion, and especially on this forum. XD After it released, there wasn't much talk about Alan Wake, except that it was still a great game regardless of the underwhelming scores and terrible sales.

On this forum there was quite a bit of hype but overall there's been more hype for GT5.
And the difference is that it did live up to more or less everything we expected. We expected decent storytelling, we expected excellent visuals, we expected cool special effects, we expected it to be thrilling.
It was all those things. It wasn't perfect and critics didn't think it deserved AAA because it took a while, because it eventually gets a little repetitive and because the game is a little short. But those were things we didn't really hype whereas aspects of GT5 that were hyped seemed to fail to deliver. Visuals were really hyped up, people said it would look better than forza. That is only the case for 20% of the cars (half of Forza's cars) and the tracks don't look any better than Forza's.
It was said to have amazing damage modelling and much improved physics yet you need to unlock realistic damage and even then it's nothing worth phoning home about. And also, the amount of vehicles was a major selling point for the game. In the trailer with Kev Butler, he even mentions how it's got 1000 cars. Seeing as premium cars seem to be shown in all the trailers and pics and stuff (though I reckon some are bullshots), people are disappointed that only 200 are worth driving.
Well that's my view on it anyway.
It is a good game of course but GT5 was hyped more than Alan Wake and failed to meet it's own mark further than Alan Wake did.
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PostSubject: Re: Gran Turismo 5 a flop?   Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:28 am

GeneralMLD wrote:
GrandMasterZillah wrote:
Man enough? Didn't it get like a 86?

And the reviews rushed it?
It's a great game, you can't take that.

I doubt you guys have played it.

it was hyped to be 90+.....hence the flop. Guess your the second group of people. I personally was disapointed when Alan Wake and Fable 3 flopped (both were AAA hyped)............but you take it and move on.

stop being sensitive.

bad AI
bland tracks
textures can be off
standard cars no cockpit view and look nowhere as good as the premiums
online modes are a joke compared to forza 3
no personalization to the cars, unlike forza 3

It was all in my recent vid. IGN called it right: Its a great simulator but a mediocre game.

and we sir..............play video games. Simulators arent worth shit if the GAME is suffering.

and considering the time it took to make this game.....GT5 is easily the biggest disapointment of this year, maybe even the entire generation.

It's only a disappointment to the fanboys who only care about the review score. Fans of GT are more then satisfied.
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