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PostSubject: Addictive games = Good?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:38 am

I've always been hearing that if a game is really addictive then it must be worth my money.

Meth is addictive. That shit is bad for you. A certain game is addictive?

Holy shit pre-order that shit now!

There's a problem with that. People have died doing Meth. People have died playing World Of Warcraft.

However, if a person dies from an overdose, it's clearly the fault of a some sort of drug outbreak or the drug itself.

If someone dies from playing World Of Warcraft, that person had a serious problem.

Why is that? Don't tell me it's up to the player to make sure he doesn't overdo it.

Some games are DESIGNED to get you addicted.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html

Yeah, I know I already posted that but this time it's for a different reason.

When I first played Maple Story, an mmorpg, I couldn't stop playing for hours. There's even a warning in the game encouraging you to take a break after 2 hours.

You know what you do in the game? Stand right next to a monster and hold down the ctrl key while occasionally healing yourself.

So what do you think?

Are addictive games good or bad?

Why? Why not?
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PostSubject: Re: Addictive games = Good?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:34 am

they can be good. people just need to know when to stop i guess. but thats easier said than done. i think maybe if your going through alot of stress, you can play it for awhile and relieve yourself
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PostSubject: Re: Addictive games = Good?   Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:04 am

Better than games that only last 4-8 hours.

They can really screw up your sleep schedule though. When I first got Persona 3 FES, Demon's Souls, and Fallout New Vegas I went to bed at 5 in the morning and woke up at around 1 or 2 for days.
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PostSubject: Re: Addictive games = Good?   Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:04 am

BlackStigma wrote:
Better than games that only last 4-8 hours.

They can really screw up your sleep schedule though. When I first got Persona 3 FES, Demon's Souls, and Fallout New Vegas I went to bed at 5 in the morning and woke up at around 1 or 2 for days.

Not really.

Addictive games make you keep playing even when it's not fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Addictive games = Good?   Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:08 pm

Pickles wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Better than games that only last 4-8 hours.

They can really screw up your sleep schedule though. When I first got Persona 3 FES, Demon's Souls, and Fallout New Vegas I went to bed at 5 in the morning and woke up at around 1 or 2 for days.

Not really.

Addictive games make you keep playing even when it's not fun.

Generalization. No game MAKES you keep playing.

The structure of the games in question use a working formula: people like to see their effort paid off. That's what "addictive" video games do. There's sentimental value to the characters/accounts you build and you start caring about it. There's nothing wrong with it. Are the games designed to keep you playing? Yeah, but why wouldn't a developer want that? Developers are moving towards progression-oriented multiplayer because it works. People want that new weapon or prestige symbol in CoD. People want that new item in WoW. It keeps people interested in the game longer because the goal has a bigger obstacle in front of it.

You mention that the games stop being fun. That's bad game design then. No one goes and blames CoD's leveling process because you're having fun while you level. You have to seamlessly integrate fun into progression, otherwise it's a grind. My motto for games like this is simple: if you're not having fun, stop playing it. After all, isn't that why you're playing games?

No such thing as addictive games. Gaming isn't an addiction; you just have an addictive personality. People who watch a lot of movies aren't addicted to movies, now are they? Or music? No one goes and blames those mediums. Gaming is a hobby like any other hobby.

People who play video games 24/7 have a much deeper problem than pseudo-addiction.
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PostSubject: Re: Addictive games = Good?   Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:02 pm

Ihsahn wrote:
Pickles wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
Better than games that only last 4-8 hours.

They can really screw up your sleep schedule though. When I first got Persona 3 FES, Demon's Souls, and Fallout New Vegas I went to bed at 5 in the morning and woke up at around 1 or 2 for days.

Not really.

Addictive games make you keep playing even when it's not fun.

No such thing as addictive games. Gaming isn't an addiction; you just have an addictive personality. People who watch a lot of movies aren't addicted to movies, now are they? Or music? No one goes and blames those mediums. Gaming is a hobby like any other hobby.

People who play video games 24/7 have a much deeper problem than pseudo-addiction.

Yup, that's about right. There's plenty of Howard Hughes-types who lock themselves in their rooms pissing in bottles so that they don't miss a second of their 72 hour WoW marathons, but that isn't Blizzard's fault, it's Johnny McPiss's fault for being an unbalanced motherfucker. Hell, I played MW2 for 2 months and I raged during almost every second of it, but I wouldn't consider it an addiction. It might be some kind of perfectionist complex that gamers have nowadays (I've been 100%ing games for almost 2 decades), so devs can put in whatever bullshit achievements or challenges they want because they know that there's plenty of gamers who just can't leave things as they are and have to satiate that little voice in the back of their head that says "push 500 NPCs into the girls bathroom to get 10 Gamerscore".
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